I mean worth discussing in any really MEANINGFUL depth? -Yeah you could rattle on about any number of theoretical properties of this idea (why call it more than that?) but without anything at all to get your teeth into aren’t we simply discussing how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin?
P.S. I’ll let you guess what this ‘idea’ is which I’m referring to (it ain’t Evolution -we keep learning more & more & more about that: didn’t you see yesterday’s news?)
For Christ’s Kingdom: You say:
‘the reason why there is such thing as theological research is because people have axiomatic BELIEFS about a certain deity. these beliefs are not arbitrary, they are based in CLAIMS of divine revelation. unless you can prove that they are not.’
No I cannot -so what? Can you prove that unicorns DON’T have blue eyes? No. Can you actually prove God is good? No, I agree that science cannot prove anything 100% but it CAN do the next best thing: make statements which are consistent the world over. How do YOU explain that scientists from ANY culture know the speed of light? -Ask a Chinaman, a Red Indian & Irishman who or what God is & you will hear 3 VERY different explanations -unsurprisingly!
If you studied Philosophy why can’t you see this obvious short coming?
For Christ’s Kingdom: You say:
there are different types of theism. just as there are different types of views of the world
NO THERE AREN’T -why do ALL scientists agree on the speed of light then? Because it is measurable. If I say it’s ts value is 299792458 metres per second & you say it isn’t I can PROVE YOU WRONG as meaningfully as anyone can when talking about the empirical universe. If you say God is real I can’t even say you are right OR wrong when you won’t tell me what a God IS (rather than what it is CLAIMED to BE on faith alone).
"You can’t convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep seated need to believe." ~Carl Sagan
For Christ’s Kingdom: You say religion has axioms like science but does it? An axiom is a universally recognised truth -like the speed of light is in the scientific disciple. But where are there ANY universally recognised truths in religion? Sure the are SOME similarities but there are more differences when you look beyond Abrahamic faiths. I watched your YouTube link & left a comment. Will you watch mine seeing as you are dressing up science as a form of faith. This is an apt response to that charge:
have been layed off work for almost 3 years now, selling my stuff,living off what little i have left in my 401k. i’m 54 and i have diabetis type 2 and i have no medical insur. i would like to get a grant to go to air conditioning & heating trade school. i will pay the money back when i get a job. i want to work but i live in california, cost money to live here. keep trying to find a job with no luck.
I like this guy, but he hangs out with people at school that consider me ‘weird’. I’m not sure about his feelings towards me, but if I had to guess, I’d say I cross his mind more than a once a day, that’s for sure. But sometimes I think that guys are very influenced by their friends and his friends would never accept if we dated. He’s 16- sophomore & I’m 16-junior
I’m 14 years old, a girl, & I grew up kind of fast. My younger sister and I got taken away from my parents when I was in the 3rd grade, and we moved in with my grandmother. She’s highly religious, and was very over protective and strict. As in, refusing to let me go somewhere, etc. just because she could. I guess you could say she was controlling. I managed though. I got myself into a good bit of trouble, and have even been told I was quite rebellious. I didn’t let that or my family instability get in the way of my personality or how outgoing I was. I could openly talk to any stranger, make them laugh, make friends easily. My sister and I moved back in with my mom, her new husband, and my two new half brothers. One of my brothers had severe brain damage from my mothers drug using. I practically took care of all my siblings. Alas, I didn’t let that change my spirit. I was about 12 then. My stepdad and mom started using drugs again. She got abusive, verbally and sometimes even physically. & when my stepdad entered my room one night, I ran away. Well not really, my boyfriends mom picked me up. I ended up moving back in with my grandmother. She developed some kind of hate for me I guess. She loved my little sister. I was always left out. That didn’t bother me though, I was strong. She used to send me away, to group homes, places for "troubled teenagers", just because. She didn’t know how to raise a teenager. No one ever suspected the life I lived. I got into depression once or twice, maybe, but I quickly got over feeling sorry for myself. My grandmother sent me to a place for ‘troubled’ teenage girls, when I was in 7th grade. I lived there for a year and a half.
basically, I could talk to 6 girls and a house parent and no one else. Literally. We weren’t allowed to talk to anyone outside of eachother. The doors were opened only by a magnetic like keychain that the houseparent wore around her neck. They would separate us for at least 2 hours a day. Not to mention, it was a Pentecostal place and I myself, have never been very religious. I got so closed up… and now I just feel like I can’t live a normal life. I get so nervous and shy, to the point where I stutter while talking. I think too much, before I do anything, such as even going to the bathroom while I’m in a public place or with people. I’m living back with my mom now, and things are better. She’s got a new husband and he’s nice. I’d just like to be able to feel comfortable with myself. My boyfriend of 6 months helps alot, he’s been through so much with me, I quite frankly feel bad about it. I’m not depressed, at all; I just wish I could be my old self again.
Thank you so much for your time, I’ve been struggling with this for about a year now.
